{"id":207,"date":"2019-08-07T14:23:17","date_gmt":"2019-08-07T18:23:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.drbarrybrody.com\/blog1\/?p=207"},"modified":"2019-08-07T14:23:17","modified_gmt":"2019-08-07T18:23:17","slug":"containing-no-things","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.drbarrybrody.com\/blog1\/?p=207","title":{"rendered":"Containing No-Things"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>W.R. Bion utilized the term &#8220;no-thing&#8221; to refer to a dimension of ineffability. Experiences, words, thoughts, dreams and feelings. That which is non-sensible. The world of &#8220;things&#8221; refers to that which can be perceived via the 5 senses. That which can be observed and measured.&nbsp; The world of logic, rationality and science.&nbsp; Where there is not space for unexplained phenomenon, always answers and solutions and fixes.&nbsp; Always something to do.&nbsp; As the surgeon said following the operation, &#8220;The operation was a success.&nbsp; It was by the book. I don&#8217;t understand why the patient died&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>And yet, in the consulting room, it seems to me that there is a lot of &#8220;no-things&#8221; which can&#8217;t be contained and are perhaps searching and waiting for a container.<\/p>\n<p>A new patient complains of &#8220;new&#8221; disturbing thoughts and feelings.&nbsp; They feel hopeless and helpless which is not who they used to be.&nbsp; They feel like they are not themselves.<\/p>\n<p>Another patient tells me of witnessing someone kill themselves.&nbsp; The patient states that this has turned their world upside-down.&nbsp; They can&#8217;t sleep or eat.&nbsp; Their moods are unstable.&nbsp; They dream about the suicide, and get flashbacks of it.&nbsp; They can&#8217;t get the pictures out of their mind.<\/p>\n<p>Of course I cannot see a patient&#8217;s feelings, thoughts or dreams.&nbsp; I cannot measure or observe their experiences, and yet patients do complain of these &#8220;no-things&#8221;.&nbsp; That is if &#8220;no-things&#8221; actually do exist.<\/p>\n<p>I have begun to imagine a trans-generational model of &#8220;no-things&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>I imagine that all humans, especially when we are babies and infants, come into contact with these &#8220;no-things&#8221; which are too much for the baby\/infant to contain and digest.&nbsp; And a significant task for the parent\/caretaker is to provide a &#8220;container&#8221; for these uncontainable experiences of &#8220;no-things&#8221;. How the parent is able to do this may determine how the baby\/infant learns to deal with their &#8220;no-things&#8221;.&nbsp; Of course parents were babies and infants once upon a time and their parents &#8220;taught&#8221; them what to do with &#8220;no-things&#8221;, and this gets passed along generation after generation.&nbsp; Can the parent be &#8220;receptive&#8221; enough to the babie&#8217;s\/infant&#8217;s uncontainable &#8220;no-things&#8221;? Do babies\/infants need receptive parents?<\/p>\n<p>Of course I can&#8217;t &#8220;prove&#8221; any of this, because by the time a patient enters my consulting room this imagined process has already occurred and all I can intuit is how the patient now handles &#8220;no-things&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>If one can conceive of &#8220;no-things&#8221;, another question would be what is the fate of the &#8220;no-things&#8221; that could not be contained by either the parent or the baby\/infant?&nbsp; Do they go away?&nbsp; Do they erupt at a later time searching for a container? Do they drive the person &#8220;crazy&#8221; or to my consulting room?<\/p>\n<p>Several patients have recently told me that their very religious families think they are &#8220;crazy&#8221; because the patients can&#8217;t &#8220;pray-away&#8221; their feelings and thoughts.&nbsp; Religion has not proven to be a receptive container for these patients, so in their families see them as &#8220;crazy&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Another patient frequently and repeatedly describes their interactions with their mother.&nbsp; These interactions appear to describe a mother who is attempting to &#8220;help&#8221; their adult child by offering advice and admonitions to be positive.&nbsp; But the patient experiences this as talking to a wall.&nbsp; The mother is unable to receive\/accept what the patient is trying to communicate, and the patient feels alone, isolated and overwhelmed with her feelings and thoughts.<\/p>\n<p>What happens when the uncontained &#8220;no-things&#8221; meet an unreceptive container\/human?&nbsp; Do they remain uncontained?&nbsp; Do they disappear?<\/p>\n<p>I see a new couple.&nbsp; The husband is very logical.&nbsp; He states he believes in using common sense to solve problems.&nbsp; He also says that he doesn&#8217;t like things he can&#8217;t control.&nbsp; The wife is very emotional.&nbsp; They frequently frustrate each other and end up bickering and arguing.&nbsp; They each make no &#8220;sense&#8221; to the other.&nbsp; His logic cannot receive or contain her emotions, and her emotions can&#8217;t receive or contain his common sense.&nbsp; I imagine that they are each trying to get the other to contain what they alone can&#8217;t contain by themselves.&nbsp; But they keep hitting a closed door.&nbsp; An unreceptive other.&nbsp; But they keep trying to get the other to receive what they are sending.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps this is less painful than the experience of meeting a non-receptive other that leaves one alone with one&#8217;s uncontainable &#8220;no-things&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>As the commercial says, &#8220;Can you hear me now?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Brody<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>W.R. Bion utilized the term &#8220;no-thing&#8221; to refer to a dimension of ineffability. Experiences, words, thoughts, dreams and feelings. That which is non-sensible. The world of &#8220;things&#8221; refers to that which can be perceived via the 5 senses. That which can be observed and measured.&nbsp; The world of logic, rationality and science.&nbsp; Where there is [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.drbarrybrody.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/207"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.drbarrybrody.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.drbarrybrody.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.drbarrybrody.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.drbarrybrody.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=207"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.drbarrybrody.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/207\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":213,"href":"https:\/\/www.drbarrybrody.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/207\/revisions\/213"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.drbarrybrody.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=207"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.drbarrybrody.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=207"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.drbarrybrody.com\/blog1\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=207"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}